Hello everyone! This Tuesday, December 1 an audio recording of the interview with Evgeny Teslov, creator of TON Surf, was published on our blog. The interview was conducted by Polina Vishnevskaya and it can be found here. Today we present to you its written version 🙂 Enjoy your reading!
Polina: Today we have an interview with Evgeny Teslov, the founder of Surf or, as he calls himself, “Surf’s dad”. Hello Eugeny! How are you doing?
Evgeny: Good afternoon! Excellent, as always.
P: This is great. Well, let’s start our interview. Are you ready?
Е .: Yes, of course. But I would like to say right away that “founder” sounds a bit too loud, because there is a whole team and they are all founders. Probably the best word here is product owner.
P .: Okay. So, please tell us a few words about yourself and your previous experience.
Е .: My previous experience, probably, is just like everyone else’s, its quite classic – a number of my own design and development studios, several personal start ups, work in a startup incubator in Eastern Europe and 10 years of experience in the IT field.
P .: What an impressive experience! How did you get into TON Labs and become the Surf product owner?
Е .: On one of the beautiful spring days, Mitja Goroshevsky reached out to me, we talked to him about the project, the product, about what he wants to create and what thoughts he had on this topic. Of course, he kindled me with this idea and invited me to participate.
P: How many people are working on TON Surf?
Е .: This is a difficult question, because Surf is influenced by the community and all the people who, in principle, come into contact with it, in addition to the main development team. We can say that everyone is involved in the development of Surf. And if we talk about core developers, then I will not give you exact numbers, but I will say approximately. Just this morning, I read in the news – well, this is a bad example, but nevertheless – that VTB released a new application and about 800 people participated in its development. I can safely say that we had 100 times less participants. I don’t like big teams because it’s better to work with a small team of superheroes that moves very quickly.
P.: Yes, it is much more effective, I think so too. What problems did you face during the development and maintenance of this project?
Е .: Actually, there are absolutely no problems for us * laughs *. We are creating something new in a field where there are no beaten paths yet. Therefore, it is difficult to say what is the problem, what is the challenge, what we are doing right and what we are doing wrong – we are rather moving by feel and constant feedback, recurring measurements and frequent changes of direction. This is classic agile development, so there are no problems.
P: So everything was done by trial and error, right?
Е .: Not exactly. When someone comes and says that they perfectly know exactly how to do this or that thing, I personally will never believe in it. Because every time you face new conditions, new challenges, constantly changing situations around. Therefore, it is rather a kind of balancing – that’s all.
P: I understand you. What unique features of a product can help bring it to the top?
Е .: We are actually inventing the language of interaction with the blockchain, and this is perhaps the main thing that distinguishes us from everything and everyone around. Because digging into some features, enumerating functionalities …
P: Can you give just a couple of examples?
Е .: Yes of course! Just yesterday we started talking about the security card inside Surf, which will appear soon, and plus there are DeBots, which will also appear in the near future. I think that any feature that we start talking about is unique in its own way.
P.: Excellent. The statistics are also interesting: how many wallets are created through TON Surf per day? Or at another period of time,if it is more convenient for you.
Е .: Let’s talk about the fact that now we are still inside the community, this is a floating figure. As you know, now there are many activities with our partners, they conduct various activities: games, work within the community or large global partnerships. Within our main community, there are at least 100 active mainnet users, and if we talk about developers, then we can safely multiply this figure by 2.
P.: Excellent. There was also another question: can you see the seed phrases and private keys of users? The service is open-source, which means that people may have doubts. It’s a question from the audience.
Е .: I can say for sure that now Surf is perhaps one of the safest products in the ecosystem, if we are talking about wallets and accounts that use encryption. We can say for sure that no one except the user has access to his/her keys. Not even us.
P: I understand you. There was also a question, will you publish Surf open-source so that people can check the source and know that nothing is embedded?
Е .: Naturally, this is in the plans. I think it will happen next year.
P .: Great! I also noticed that you are going to release a TON Labs card. What is its peculiarity? Can you please share with us?
Е .: Yes, we’ve already mentioned it today. Features: there is a certified chip inside the card with a security rating of 6+ – this is an absolutely unique flow for ordering this card. Let me explain by giving an example: when you order any hardback wallet, a lot of people have access to it in the process of manufacturing and delivery to the recipient, from manufacturer to courrier. Our security card cannot be compromised from the moment you order it. In the coming weeks, we will talk in more details about each stage of the life of this card and about its features, and I think we will tell you about many interesting things that are sewn inside. Yes, and on the other hand, in my opinion, one of the main features of the card is that, in fact, it is a physical medium, for which you, as a developer, can come up with any use case. Almost any.
P .: Will it be possible to purchase this card for TON Crystals?
Е .: Let’s wait until December.
P .: Good! Are there any plans to integrate Surf with other services and products? For example, Tinkoff has an application that combines all services
Е .: Regarding Surf, everything is very simple – DeBots, which will allow you to do any integrations you want.
P.: Also, our subscribers would like you to share a spoiler for a future update.
Е .: Future updates? You know, we release them almost every week, and then we will need to gather up and spoil what’s new on a weekly basis. I will not talk about some technological things that will begin to appear very soon.
P .: Great, I understand. What do you think, what are the prospects for the Free TON project, and what is your general attitude to the project, what can its participants achieve in 5 years, for example?
Е .: That’s not the easiest question. I think that Free TON gives a unique opportunity, and we see it every day, to use it to present our ideas to people and implement absolutely any ideas within it. One of the important points here is to give an opportunity to make it the way people see it.
P: What prospects do you think the project has? Maybe some numbers?
Е .: I would not like to talk about numbers, but if talking about Surf, then one of the goals that makes you smile, but at the same time is important – 9 billion people inside Surf.
P.: This is a great goal, I wish you to achieve it. Now a question for you personally: do you hold any cryptocurrencies? If so, which ones?
Е .: * laughs * I would rather not answer this question.
P .: Well, okay. And at the end of our interview, I would like to know from you, what can you wish for our listeners?
Е .: At our meetings, guests or the community members often ask us when this or that functionality or product will appear within the ecosystem. I would like to wish our listeners not to be just passive participants, but to take a proactive position in the development of Free TON. Right now is a unique time and a unique opportunity to make Free TON the way everyone sees it. Probably so. Proactivity!
P .: Great wish, I absolutely agree with it. Thank you for your wishes, interview and your time.
Е .: Yes, thank you!